Xtreme Ice Skating 360 split jump

Posted: September 1, 2009 in Jumps, Xtreme Ice Skating
  1. Paul says:

    Nicely done Nathan! Love the speed you do jumps at – makes them all the more impressive!

  2. Paul says:

    haha you callin nathan a figure skater 😉

    • Dan Perceval says:

      I’m NOT calling Nathan a figure skater, I’m just keeping the sport extreme, that’s all. Nothing wrong with figure skating every once in a while. I practice axels here and there.

  3. nathan says:

    this jump is in its early stages i only first did it about two weeks ago so i need more pracice. I am aiming for a two footed eagle turn take off eventually as well as getting more extension on my legs. We all know im not a figure skater otherwise i wouldnt be an official extreme ice skater haha.

    • Dan Perceval says:

      Yeah, the Air Flow would be cool to look at. Oh, and speaking of official xtreme ice skater, Nathan, I’m still waiting on testing videos 🙂 . Guidelines for Intermediary level-1 testing is about to be completed, so there’s another test that will be ready for you soon. I will also post testing videos of myself. I have one posted already for Beginner test on youtube. I figured if I’m gonna make you guys go through the testing, I’d better be able to do it just as well.

  4. nathan says:

    yeah i will submit a beginner video soon, now i have someone to film for me

    • Dan Perceval says:

      OK good. Please read this page before submitting:

      Shortly after you submit, I’ll need two of the best pictures of yourself, and in as highest quality as possible (one of you skating, and one just of you – – without your friends). From there, I’ll start marketing you so lessons can kick-off and run smoothly starting some time in 2010. I’ll send you an email asking your permission to use your first and last name if that is okay with you.

      I am starting to save my money to go back to England next year. When I visit, we will need to meet and work together for about two weeks, so if you have a planned vacation for next year, please try to leave 2 weeks open for my visit, if at all possible. We’ll need to teach together, do exhibitions, and maybe tour your country a bit (by train or car). Do you have a camera person that can travel with you? We will need one. My father can’t come.

  5. Nathan says:

    I will ask around maybe jon gill who filmed that montage of me back in feb might do it

    • Dan Perceval says:

      OK good. Once you’re certified, we have to start putting together an exhibition over the internet. And we’ll have to film ourselves doing our own parts so we can see what we have. When I get to your country, we may only have 1 practice session to put the whole thing together because I rink management will probably be very iffy about giving up ice, even though it’s for publicity. But anyway, putting together an exhibition in 1-2 hours shouldn’t be a problem since we’ve already practiced our own parts separately and just need to rehearse together.

  6. Paul says:

    just to clarify i was joking about the figure skating comment – it would appear that it wasnt taken as a joke!

  7. Joey Tsang says:

    When I read splits I was thinking Robin cousins Russian split jump with a 360…. Thats just with your legs open….

    This is me on the jump and I’m working on the straight split jump, adding in a rotation soon.

    • Dan Perceval says:

      It looks like your doing a straight up and down split jump.

      There must be caution when giving names to tricks. “Split Jump” is already used in figure skating, so if you name a trick the “split jump”, you’re gonna have figure skaters breathing down your neck claiming that you’re just stealing moves from their sport. My suggestion to you, Joey, would be to keep your brand strong by keeping your approach solitary, and differentiate yourself from other related sports and/or brands.

      • Joey Tsang says:

        But the names of your tricks are just the names of skateboard, inline etc. names.

        We all do the same thing, everyone knows it’s a lot easier to pull of jumps and spins etc. with figure and dance boots because of the toe picks.

        The fact that we do what we do is more impressive is that we don’t have the hardware to do it, thus we have to adapt.

        That’s a straight up and down yes but to add the rotation with enough air to do it and land properly is going to take time to develop.

        The way I see it is, you’re older than me I take it? You learned how to walk first and you’re saying i’m copying you because I learned to walk also.

        • Dan Perceval says:

          Please do not take what I say as an affront. I was merely trying to give you advice — free advice. Why? because I am a business maniac. Business is my obsession. If anything I say seems like an affront, it is NOT. My advice comes from my benevolent nature to always want to help others.

          In regards to the figure skating comment, I was trying to give you a heads up of what happened to me because I don’t want you to go through the same aggravation.

          I do not insinuate that you were copying me, nor did I slightly hint at that. Perhaps my communication was not clear.

          WHen you said: “But the names of your tricks are just the names of skateboard, inline etc. names”, you were right in saying that, but by taking some names from inline and skateboarding tricks does not hinder my brand, it enforces it – – whereas figure skating diminishes it.

          • Joey Tsang says:

            I don’t think that figure skating or ice dancing puts any kind of downer onto your brand or what we do.

            True we are not figure skaters or dancers but if we are using a variation or indeed the same trick/ jump etc. what’s wrong with that?

            We are on a totally different platform to them, we have hockey skates. Thinner, shorter blades with no toe picks. Makes it harder for us to copy them.

            • Dan Perceval says:

              When figure skating is confused with my brand, it diminishes my brand. This is simply so because of brand awareness and brand recall. It’s key to building customer based brand equity by clearly and distinctively differentiating oneself. I am just trying to help.

              If you are using the same trick or jump, there’s nothing wrong with that. When I said, “keep your brand strong by keeping your approach solitary”, I was referring to the fact that you ought to establish brand uniqueness first, before promoting a marketing mix. Brand appeal is most derived from brand uniqueness, and especially in what you guys are doing.

              If your approach is to copy figure skating — if that is what you’re implying, especially when you say, “makes it harder for us to copy them” (referring to figure skaters), than it will be extremely hard to differentiate yourself from the figure skating market. Your brand identity will be de-legitimized. If your approach is that you’re different because you’re doing tricks on hockey skates, you might further brand uniqueness a bit, but will still be hard to solidify a strong brand identity. This is why I say “figure skaters will be breathing down your necks”. If you come to a different country such as my own, you will see a great disparity in how our markets react to new products/services. The U.S. market is the toughest market in the world, unfortunately.

  8. Tony Brown says:

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    A definite great read..Tony Brown

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